NC State University: Statistics Program

This is a message that I drafted at the tail end of my career at NC State. I wrote it to a student contemplating the program at NCSU and I tried to highlight a few important things. It might be slightly outdated with respect to the current line up of faculty, but it is not too far off. If you have any questions please let me know.

PS -- Don't forget to visit their website ... www.stat.ncsu.edu . At the website you will be able to see information concerning their various programs, including the summer institute in bio-statistics (SIBS).

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In the end, I chose NCSU and, now that I've been there, I can give some 
points of advantage at NCSU: 


* Wider range of research opportunities 

We have the largest graduate program in the nation (and in the world). 
So, you can research whatever the heck you want ... someone is bound to 
be researching something you're interested in (biostats, time series, 
measurement error, spatial stats, statistical genetics, industrial 
stats, ...). In biostats, we have 2 of the world's experts in the field 
(Davidian, Tsiatis). In time series, we have some the world's experts in 
the field (Dickey, Bloomfield, Pantula).  In measurement error, we have 
one of the biggest experts in the field (Stefanski). In spatial stats, 
we have 2 of the brightest new researchers in the field (Genton, 
Fuentes). In statistical genetics, we have perhaps the world's #1 
leading expert in the field (Weir). In industrial stats, we have 1 
faculty member who is really making a name for herself (Hughes-Oliver). 
We have recently hired some heavy theoretical guys too. Overall, 
everyone is well published and 'famous' in their own way. Whatever your 
interest, there's a nice mixture of theory and application that is 
available to you ... it is not a program that is biased one way or 
another ... it's well mixed. 

Speaking of applications, regardless of what you decide to research, you 
will walk away from NCSU as a SAS savvy person. SAS was developed here 
at NCSU and it is an important component of your education as a graduate 
student. You will know SAS pretty well by the time you leave. 

Here's another area close to my heart ... statistics education. We have 
our own famous faculty member in the field (Dietz) who has interacted 
with your own Dr. Peck, Rossman, and Chance. We have just hired TWO or 
THREE new faculty just to strengthen the stat ed branch and there's a 
concerted effort in our department to broaden this focus in our 
department. 

* Broader internship opportunities 

RTP (research triangle park) is overflowing with intern experiences of a 
wide variety. You can intern at SAS, EPA, National Institutes of Health, 
and a host of pharmaceutical companies just to name a few opportunities. 
The triangle verticies include Raleigh, Chapel Hill, and Durham. It is 
very close by and it's not a bad commute. This rich area of research and 
internship experiences is VERY unique to the area ... not many graduate 
programs are blessed with such a proximity to a rich resource. 

* VIGRE program (were you extended a VIGRE fellowship?) 

I am currently a VIGRE fellow in the biostatistics group. Only a few 
programs in the country have a VIGRE program. If you were not extended a 
VIGRE fellowship now, you may be extended one later if you decide to 
become active in one of the VIGRE working groups (biostat, stat gen, 
industrial, environmental). You can find out more details from our 
website. 

* Computing resources second to NONE 

Now that I've come back from my interview trips across some very good 
schools, I can honestly say we have top notch computing facilities (with 
a HUGE pool of student server machines known as BEOWULF clusters -- very 
convenient when it comes to simulations). We also have one of the most 
outstanding systems administrators (Terry Byron) ... he is one of the 
most knowledgeable and reliable computing experts you may ever meet (and 
he's really really cool!). 

* Faculty with grants grants grants 

With such an active faculty in research, they are a good source of 
funding in case you opt to leave a TAship. Not all faculty have grants, 
but many 
do. 

* Proximity to Duke and UNC Chapel Hill 

Although we don't like Duke and UNC when it comes to sports, they are a 
convenient source of experts in areas such as Bayesian stats and 
theoretical stats. Some of our students takes courses over there (even 
attain committee members) and the course credit counts toward your own 
plan of work at NCSU. Duke is the center of some of the world's 
top-notch Bayesian experts, UNC is still considered a strong center of 
theoretical stats. 

* A very friendly, non cut-throat, family-like environment 

To me, one of the greatest things about our program is the family 
structure and feel. Some programs can have a nasty cut-throat atmosphere 
(so I've heard at UNC). Students often get together to work in groups to 
do homeworks and this is widely encouraged by the faculty. Faculty are 
very friendly and they have an open-door policy ... despite their busy 
schedules, they never seem to discourage students from visiting to ask 
questions or just to chat. You may be used to such an environment at Cal 
Poly ... but it's much harder to find something like that at the 
graduate school level. Despite the world-class faculty we have assembled 
in our midst, by talking to them you'd never know they are such high 
profile experts since just about everyone is so down to earth. We also 
have multiple events throughout the year where we socialize with fellow 
graduate students and faculty. In a couple weeks we will be crashing one 
of our faculty's home for the annual spring picnic. In September, as 
with every year, we have our annual beach trip to Wilmington (which is 
really fun).  We also have an International Dinner night where we have a 
pot luck gathering off campus and, during the evening, we have a mini 
"talent show" where we showcase our various talents. Last year, I played 
a guitar duet with a good friend of mine and, even though we messed up 
plenty-o-times, it was still really fun. 

On a slightly tangential note, aside from these scheduled guaranteed 
events, we have many other ongoing social events. If you dig the social 
scene, there's always a group of outgoing folks that like hitting the 
dance clubs.  Admittedly, I don't go out partying much, but I hear 
people that enjoy doing that often head out to UNC Chapel Hill since 
that's the happening scene over there. Raleigh is not barren by any 
means ... there's stuff to do here. Although we don't have luxurious 
mountains here, we do have plenty of lakes, parks and trees trees trees. 
Most of the area looks like a forest ... which is a nice feature to me. 
If you like camping, mountain biking, or hiking, all these things are 
accessible. If you really miss the big city life, DC is only 4 hours 
away (and other 'big' cities are nearby too). If you enjoy skiing, to 
the west the mountains are 4 hours away. So, there's something for 
everyone here -- it ain't the middle of nowhere (like Ames, Iowa ... 
that's where Iowa State is). 

* Awesome preparation for teaching 

This is something I'll address below (wrt to your TA question), however, 
we have something called the "Preparing the Professoriate" program that 
has helped many of us (including me) prepare for academics. If you're 
thinking about teaching, this one opportunity should be eye opening to 
you since NOT ALL UNIVERSITIES have a similar program. Our faculty are 
very encouraging for those interested in academics and are great 
resources as potential mentors. 

* Housing 

Many of us have housing within a 1-mile radius and we are enjoying it. I 
stayed at a private dorm for my first 2 years and I HATED IT. Unless you 
have a compelling reason to stay on campus, don't do it. Make sure you 
find a place with air conditioning ... that is a must. Our summers are 
humid and brutal. 

If I were you, I would send an email to our departmental secretary to 
find out whether other first year students are looking for a roommate. I 
share a 2 bedroom apartment with another student from the department 
(Alvin Van Orden -- current Ph.D. student) and we pay $630 a month (off 
of a 1 year lease). I live at Kensington Park apartment and it's nice 
... once you get past the application process. The folks at KP make the 
application process unnecessarily painful ... but, it's a 1 time 
experience and after that you're okay. We live off of Avent Ferry which 
is along the "Wolfline" bus route. No matter where you live, I would 
recommend living somewhere in walking distance to the "Wolfline" (maps 
available online ... see the transportation office on the website). The 
bus service is 'free' (actually, we pay for it in our student fees) but 
it has a wide range of operating hours (7am to 1am M-F, also runs on 
Sat/Sun I think). The bus is great since, if your car ever breaks down, 
you won't have to worry about getting to school. 

You can also search online (The News and Observer ... 
http://www.newsobserver.cob/ ) and search the classifieds for rentals of 
apartments or houses. I did that when I was searching from LA and that's 
how I discovered my private dorm. If you don't like the idea of sharing 
an apartment with another, then your 1 bedroom rent will be something 
like $550.  Obviously, sharing an apartment makes things easier on the 
wallet, but there's always the gamble of rooming with someone who could 
turn out to be a jerk. Usually, by the time you end up in graduate 
school, you only end up with mature students that are considerate and 
responsible people (except me). 

If you don't mind the idea of a roommate, the best possible situation 
would be to room with someone in the department that is senior to you -- 
that way, you could be instantly mentored and the first semester would 
be a relatively smoother experience. You can ask Janice to send around a 
general appeal to the graduate students to see if someone's interested 
in finding a new roommate. In any such appeal (whether to current or 
incoming grad students) you should include information that is important 
to you (i.e. preference for smoking, alcohol consumption, pets, gender, 
occasional cocaine parties ... ok just kidding). 

* Teaching at NCSU 

If you teach, you go in without any formal training preparations. 
However, we have a support structure to provide help. Many of your peers 
will be polished instructors and will be a wealth of information. Again, 
they would be willing to share their materials with you because WE HAVE 
A FAMILY ENVIRONMENT (can you see why this feature pays off in so many 
ways???). We also have a faculty member dedicated as the course 
supervisor so you're never without someone to consult with. Our intro 
class (which I've taught for many semesters) is pretty cut and dry ... 
nothing you cannot handle. One advantage we DO have in this instructor 
position is that you are 100% RESPONSIBLE for the course ... lectures, 
grading of exams, the whole enchilada (although you are afforded a 
grader to do the HW assignments). Not all instructorships leave the 
graduate student 100% in charge (see other programs). Being 100% in 
charge looks good to other programs if you're thinking about going into 
teaching ... that shows you know how to call the shots (of course, 
assuming your course evaluations are good!). 

But, for your first year, I say you should either grade papers or teach 
a lab. The lab instructor is usually in charge of showing people how to 
use the computer packages like SAS or Splus. That responsibility is no 
where near as time consuming as teaching a course. I personally graded 
papers at first, then moved into teaching the labs, then into a regular 
teaching role -- that transition worked well for me. 

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I hope these responses help you out. Feel free to ask more if you want. 
Sometimes, a conversation over the phone is more convenient. I decided 
to write these comments down since you can have something to refer to 
when you make your final decision. There are a LOT of other good 
programs out there ... but when you stack up all of our advantages, I 
think it's tough to beat us. 

Finally, in terms of the distance from home issue, it wasn't a big deal 
at all. I have grown to love Raleigh, although I didn't dig it too much 
during my first semester. Now, I really enjoy the area. I had never been 
away from the S. California area so it was an exciting opportunity to 
see a different part of the states. If you go somewhere close (like UC 
Davis), chances are you would be able to visit family more regularly 
than if you were here ... but probably NOT by much. This is not because 
of a lack of travel inconvenience since driving is always much easier 
than flying. The real reason will be this: no matter if you go to UCD or 
NCSU, YOU WILL BE BUSY ... classes will keep you preoccupied and you 
won't have the luxury of as many free weekends as you're currently 
accustomed to. That's not to say it's 100% torturous work. Round trip 
flights to LAX from RDU is about $220 ... which isn't so bad. Anyway, 
the bottom line is that you probably won't miss home as much as you 
might fear ... living 2500 miles away from home has had some advantages 
for me. Of course, you'll be making plenty of friends while you're here 
since ... again ... WE HAVE A FRIENDLY FAMILY ENVIRONMENT. 

One last note ... one COOL thing about being here is that the collegiate 
sports scene is pretty serious (and fun!). Our football team usually 
causes a stir around here and football games are really fun to watch at 
the stadium (it is a major cultural event). Earlier in the year, we 
defeated Nortre Dame at one of the big bowl games and now people are 
super excited about what is coming up for the next season. Our star QB 
(P. Rivers) has Heisman potential, or so they say. Also, ACC basketball 
is very very exciting. Our team did okay this year and, although we fell 
in the first round of the tourney, we've defeated some major teams this 
season like Wake Forest and Duke. Anyway, if you do enjoy collegiate 
sports, the atmosphere here is unlike anything I've ever seen and it 
truly adds to the grad school experience! 

If you ever want to chat, please feel free to contact me. I would never 
consider your call a burden so don't hesitate to contact me. I remember 
the anxiety of deciding and I would like to help out in any way I can. 

Jimmy Doi